when they looked at the polling in 2008 about health care when the president was running for election the first time, it was clearly defined for voters or especially swing voters as an economic issue. this is not separate from pocketbook issues, this is right on point. that's why given where we are at with a still struggling economy for many people, health care does fit into these pocketbook issues. when republicans talk about you've got your free choice of doctors, for most people there isn't an actual free choice, because the cost of going to any doctor, any hospital you want is prohibitive. those are those out of network costs that make it very, very difficult for anyone to support this free choice that supposedly is part of this system. so people understand that very well. what they don't understand is what the president is proposing and how these costs will come down if they take part in these exchanges or the coverage they get will be better through their employer. >> has the democratic side been outmaneuvered on this, outmarketed on this so far, rick? >> well, they labor under